Prop 8 and the Black Vote
Ta-Nehisi Coates posts on a report about Proposition 8 and the black vote (hat tip: Andrew Sullivan). He’s rightly angry about a report (linked in the quoted post below) that came out on the actual voting numbers on Proposition 8. I certainly quoted CNN’s exit poll numbers on Prop 8 to friends. I remember being surprised that the number was so high.
Coates is quite angry in his post (which I’ll post in its entirety) but he’s right about something. No one owes gays anything, except a fair shake, a chance. If we want to have marriage rights — and there’s no question that we do — we have to go fight for it and forge alliances with groups of people who will help us win those rights. Marriage rights for same-sex couples do not exist in most states. Even though it’s a fundamental human right, gays are not yet afforded this right. So we have to fight for it like it’s not owed us. It’s like Edison (I think it was him) said, “Success looks a lot like hard work.” We have to work for this. It will mean much less if it’s handed to us.
Coates’ post:
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I’m sorry, but this really pisses me off. The problem with getting good numbers is that they invariably take time to come in. In the meantime, people are happy to run off and trumpet their half-cocked theories–unchallenged–to anyone who’s listening. I’ve tried to be measured and sensitive on this. But frankly, the scapegoating of black people for the failure passage of Prop 8 has been a travesty. Anyone who doubts that needs to read this report. A few of the conclusions are as follows.
1.) The 70 percent figure for black support of Prop 8 is wildly overblown, and in conflict with all the other polling done. The study concludes that 58 percent is a more likely number. To put that in context, the study also concludes that 59 percent of Latinos supported prop 8. That isn’t one-up-manship–it just means we were about the same.
2.) Black people almost certainly did not account for 10 percent of the voters on Prop 8, they accounted for seven percent
3.) 58 percent is still higher than the 52 percent for the state, as a whole, but that difference is almost entirely accounted for by the fact that no ethnic group in California is as religiously devout as (as measured by church attendance) African-Americans.
4.) Among those who attended church weekly, African-Americans were support for Prop 8 was lower than amongst any other ethnic group.
The faultiness of exit polling is well known. But when it comes to blacks, we believe the worse and ask questions, uhm, like never.
Look, my fight is clear. Homophobia is bad for my community. I support gay marriage because I believe it is a moral imperative, and the marker of a just society. I support it because, as a black man, I have seen first-hand the value of all kinds of family. In other words, it’s in my interest. It’s in my son’s interest. It’s a part of a world that I hope to live in. But frankly, I have no use for people–gay, straight, white, red, rich, poor–who feel like black people “owe them.” I have no use for people who like to trot out their history of supporting “black causes.” I have no use for people who want to compare gay racism with black homophobia. With friends like those…
There are people in my business who took to the highest hills to decry the betrayal of black Californians, and to this day, are giddily noting that blacks sunk marriage equality in California, who foist the failure of marriage equality on seven percent of the electorate. I will not speculate on their motives. But let’s see how loudly they address this study. Let’s see how much ink we see spilled revisiting those assumptions. Or will it be on to the next calamity, where the blacks–or the Arabs, or the Latinos–can be trotted out and blamed for the failings of others. For the failings of us all.
My girlfriend and I have had numerous conversations about this. We’re mad about the passage-even being from Pennsylvania, but feel there is no one to blame-we want to swing, but can’t. (OK…you’ve read my religious rants…maybe just swing a little) We saw Milk and it cemented my resolve not to fight against but work with others-but always to be vocal and “out” about being gay and gay rights. I’m white. I’m gay. I think what I’ve come to see from all this is that with sexual differences and racial differences-everyone has their history. Everyone wants their history told, and not to have it undermined. I want to try to unite with groups in this way…like Harvey Milk did. Yeah…I’m a minority-I respect your struggle as another kind of minority-if we band together we will become the majority. I might think of “Gay as the new Black” but I want to remember that there are two different histories behind these movements-both (in my opinion) civil rights struggles with violence and intolerance. Mutually exclusive, and therefore as important depending on who you talk to. Maybe that’s the way I hope everyone will see it. Wow…thanks for shaking my hornet’s nest.
Hostess, I agree with you. I want to unite as well. I think it’s what will change the hearts and minds and ultimately lead to a victory. Blaming someone for a loss, however, is counter-productive, even if it’s true. Which, I have to reiterate, it wasn’t in this case.
I’ve consistently said that being out and open about who we are and our lives is critical in this fight. (That does not mean we give up fighting in other arenas, though, like the courts and the ballot box.) If we’re open about who we are, people will see — eventually — that there is nothing to fear. And fear is what’s causing people to balk.
The gay rights movement of the 2000s is similar to the civil rights movement of the 1960s, but it’s not the same. We can’t expect people to join our cause just because we might have joined theirs. We have to build the bridges.
You’re right, Hostess, we need to be more like Milk; we could actually use some real leaders in the gay community. I wish Harvey Milk were still around. Who will take his place? Not the current political people — HRC, etc.
yes…will will step up and be the next Harvey Milk? Big shoes to fill, but there has to be someone out there.p.s.-the lysol thing…priceless!